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USA Trains SD70MAC and Kadee Couplers

You recently reviewed the USA Trains SD70, but I Ioaned my copy to a friend, who hasn’t returned it, the May Issue, I believe. Did you install Kadee couplers? If so, which one?

Thank you,

Ken Thompson
Ballwin, MO

Hi Ken, your friend should know that it’s cheaper to buy his own subscription than it is to compromise a good friendship, especially since a year with us only costs him (or anyone else) $24 in the United States. It’s hard to take a friend to lunch for that little money. Meanwhile, to your question: I removed USA Trains’ proprietary swing arm system completely and used the central threaded hole to mount a Kadee #836 medium offset shank coupler. I have run this locomotive quite a bit (it’s a real visitor-pleaser) and this coupler solution seems to be just fine through all sorts of track geometry. — John

B&O F3s and Their Dynamic Brakes

In reference to the Proto 1000 upgraded F3 review on page 20 of the June 2006 issue of your excellent publication, I would like to add a few corrections/additions. The author is correct when he states that the B&O models are missing the steam generator equipment. He implies that the unit should have the dynamic brake grilles on the roof. According to the F3 article in Railway Prototype Cyclopedia vol 6, page 48, B&O units 82-88 and 82A-88A do not have dynamic brakes. Also the units should have the enclosed (passenger) pilot, not the freight pilot as shown.

Joe Altnether
Mesa, AZ

See Joe? That’s why we’re glad you’re one of our readers! I dug and dug for those exact pieces of information, looking at photos by the ton, reading rosters, and generally going nuts, only to get it only one third right. Since then, I found that B&O didn’t consider dynamics to be needed with passenger trains, at least at that time, but they spent the money they saved on the dynamics coming up with fancy, closed passenger pilots about which the riding public didn’t care. — John

Setting the High Point to Rest

One small error popped up in your otherwise excellent review of the Green Cove Depot offered by KingMill. That was the comment that the N&W Abingdon Branch offered the highest location in the east served by a passenger train.

Unfortunately that distinction belongs to the narrow gauge East Tennessee & Western North Carolina Railroad/Linville River system, just a few short miles south of the A branch in TN and NC, better known as the Tweetsie. Much of the LR system was above the 3,500 foot mark of White Top on the Abingdon Branch. It peaked out at Linville Gap, NC at the lofty elevation of 4,045 feet. An Eastern Continental Divide marker at that location shows the elevation at 4,042 feet, so we can trust the government over competing advertising departments.

The N&W people have been claiming that “highest point” distinction for years, but the Tweetsie sure had them beat. Now if you say highest “standard gauge” you would be correct. Oh, and the Abington Branch was built as the Virginia-Carolina Railway, which was taken over by the N&W in 1919. That’s where the Virginia Creeper moniker comes from.

Johnny Graybeal
President, ET&WNC RR Historical Society and author of the Along the ET&WNC book series

Hi Johnny, this is what makes this magazine so much fun to do. Nothing “unfortunate” about the Tweetsie; it was a wonderful little narrow gauge railroad. Last I heard, their dandy little Ten-Wheeler is still operable. The “Tweetsie” has the good fortune of being supported by an active historical society. You can visit the society at www.mindspring.com/~cfordart/etwnc/histsociety.html or www.urbaneagle.com/slim/etwnc.html. — Ed.

Starter Sets with DCC and Sound Redux

I am surprised by your answer to Schell Hammel’s question about economical train sets equipped with DCC and sound, in which you said “I know of no train set offered now with DCC and a sound-equipped locomotive.” You are clearly forgetting the largest and oldest model train manufacturer in the world: Märklin. Please reference the 2006 HO Märklin catalog or Märklin USA web site (www.marklin.com). In the catalog you will find seven basic starter sets with the digital (DCC to the rest of the world) components included in the set (engines have digital chips installed, and the digital controller is included), and a further four sets with digital components and engines with sound, including an American starter set (New York Central). There are an additional three starter sets with engines already equipped for digital, but without the digital components included. The price range is pleasantly surprising.

Further, with the Märklin digital system there is never a question of what components are compatible. Märklin markets their complete program of simple, yet highly sophisticated digital products through every Märklin dealer (dealers are available through the Märklin web site). The only research the consumer must do is find a dealer that understands your needs and the Märklin products. All current Märklin engines are equipped for the digital system, and most are equipped with sound.

Yes, Märklin operates exclusively on its own system, but that wasn’t the question, and Märklin has the simplest operating system (I feel so sorry for everyone starting in DCC who is trying to figure out what system to use, and what components are compatible. I don’t want to research electronics. I want to play with trains, and Märklin allows me to do this).

Richard Deremer
Huntington, NY

Thanks for bringing this up, Richard. In truth, I pondered on this and left Märklin out, but not because of quality. I’ve visited their plant in Germany and cannot remember seeing such a robustly organized manufactory in any industry. Small wonder their products have such vaunted quality. No, my reason is in the exact words you stated, “Märklin operates exclusively on its own system.” We have another word for that: Proprietary. It is a very solid, reliable, and enjoyable proprietary, but it does not conform to the NMRA standards of DCC, and so it isn’t entitled to be called that. The question was about sound/DCC starter sets, and so the solution set is still empty. To be fair, Trix — the two-rail North American version of Märklin products — does offer DCC decoder-equipped models, including the stunningly delightful die-cast Big Boy with DCC and Sound. — Ed.

Project Railroad Pluses

In your Project Railroad article it was a great idea for you to advise modelers to not detail or paint walls viewers won’t see, and you did mention that sometimes you can leave off that wall or use a piece of styrene or cardboard. Going one further, when putting buildings together the modeler can leave off the joining walls between buildings — or cut off the wall not showing when joining two uneven-height buildings — thus saving extra walls for other buildings or shallow fronts along backdrops. Many buildings built before WW II had different styles of additions, so a bunch of non-matching walls look even better for a kitbash than a kit.

Second, I love that you guys really promote Trainplayer/TrackLayer, because everybody who models trains should buy this thing. In the history of model railroading, there has been a big step missing between the drawing out of the trackplan and theactual building of the layout — the testing phase, to see if the layout will provide the interest and operation the builder is looking for. Up until now, only years of experience would help steer a modeler toward the best layout he could make. I think every modeler has found out at least once in their lives the hard truth that what looks really great on paper tends to disappoint slightly or greatly once it’s built. A friend of mine, now nearing completion of the tracklaying on his 6 x 13 foot N layout, wistfully admitted, “it’s not as big as I was thinking it would be.”

With TrackLayer, a modeler can run his planned layout to see if it actually works, without the considerable expense of having to build it first. How many cars fit where, how complicated switching or engine changes are, how long trains can be without chasing their caboose can now be determined on the computer. Seeing scale-sized trains running around on your plan is very instructional.

Automobile builders and aircraft manufacturers use computers to figure out how their design will work, now model railroaders can too. Tracklayer is a program every modeler should buy, from beginner to expert, just as they would buy how-to books on track planning, scenery, wiring, and all the rest. I believe it should eventually be considered a must-have, like a scale ruler or track cleaner. The time and money saved from having to rebuild trackage or making a new layout because the original plan was flawed will far outweigh the cost of the computer program. I’d also like to see model railroad construction books include a section on using TrackLayer to help refine or redo layout plans. This concept is as revolutionary as Kato’s needlepoint axle power pickup system.

Al Skinner
Bellingham, WA

You are exactly right, Al. It’s like the old carpenter’s adage, “Measure twice, cut once.” In military circles, I’ve heard it said that, “Great execution starts with a great plan.” The important issue is that planning is an organization process, and we’ve been waiting for the computer world to come in and help us organize this. Look at what happened in engineering with CAD/CAM software. Unfortunately, this software does not support the Mac, which we use around here because we’re into publishing. I think that to become the universal tool, it requires that solution. — Ed.

More on “DCC Turnouts”

I thought that I would add my two cents to your comments on “DCC” turnouts. Of course, there should be no difference between DC and DCC turnouts. However, there are differences between the marketing of those turnouts. Essentially, there are two types of turnouts — all live and power routing. The original Shinohara turnouts, marketed by Lambert in code 100 and code 70, were power routing. When Walthers took over their marketing in code 83, they were still power routing. A disadvantage of the power-routing turnout is that, if the closure rail does not make good contact with the stock rail, there will be no current in the closure rail. This can be corrected by wiring to the closure rails (and frog), for which the Tortoise motor provides the necessary contacts. Walthers (Shinohara) “DCC” turnouts are all live. The advantage of the all-live turnouts is that their wiring is simplified, i.e., no wiring to the closure rails is needed because it is built in. Also, the space between stock rail and the closure rail is somewhat greater on the Walthers (Shinohara) “DCC” turnouts in order to lessen the possibility of shorts. However, a possible disadvantage of the all-live turnout is the length of the insulated frog on the Walthers “DCC” turnouts. That length is 1-1/4 inches on a #6 turnout, 2 inches on a #8, and 2-1/2 inches on a #8 curved turnout. On modern models with all-wheel pickup this would not be a problem, but on older models this could be.

Peco has for some time marketed turnouts; however, they were not to NMRA standards (instead of having a frog angle similar to prototype turnouts, they were of circular design, i.e., small, medium, and large radius). They came in code 100 and, more recently, code 75. They had both “insulfrog” and “electrofrog” which are equivalent to all live and power routing, respectively. They have very recently come out with code 83 turnouts meeting NMRA standards, which they advertise as being suitable for DC or DCC. Again, they have both “insulfrog” and “electrofrog.”

On my own layout (still under construction), I have used Peco code 100 turnouts for all hidden trackage (I like the simple way in which their switch machines can be mounted) and code 83 Walthers/Shinohara turnouts elsewhere. I am now using their so-called “DCC” turnouts, mainly because of the simplified wiring and the reduced possibility of electrical shorts. I am, however, still operating analog DC rather than DCC (I’ve got too much invested in DC locomotives). I should also mention that I am modeling the Pacific Electric interurban, for which I am using Peco code 75 small radius turnouts. Looks quite good.

Jim Case
Cedar City, UT

You did well, Jim. I wasn’t going to get into all this as a reply to someone else’s letter, but you did a right good job of laying it out for us. One other problem is the internal wiring of each switch. Wires or strips of metal make contact between various rails on the underside of the switch, often where it’s hard to see. The switch works fine until there’s a wreck with a track short involved. The 5-amp DCC system protects itself and shuts down. The locomotive decoder doesn’t have any current across it, so it isn’t harmed (usually). However, you suddenly discover that the dead spot has grown from just the frog to include one or more of the closure rails. Why? One of those tiny wires underneath was never designed to handle 5 amps! After that, it’s not at all unusual to find jumper wires soldered in place. Of course, they’re easier to jumper before they’re installed. Something to think about. — Ed.

For an N-scale Gas Station

Reaching the 20 to 40 crowd


This is in response to your letter titled N-scale offerings. The consumer in the letter is trying to make a point that I think you are missing. The future of the hobby industry will depend on new younger blood and the only way to get younger people involved in the hobby is to produce products that they want. Most consumers in the 20 to 40 age group do not want to model the steam era because they do not have any memories of them at all. They relate to the 1970s to the 1990s era of equipment and structures. Now I know that there are some products out there that address this time frame, but if we don’t continue to make more products to attract a younger crowd than who will be our future customers? Most of the younger customers that I have coming into my store do not want to scratch build anything. They are willing to spend some time on assembling a kit, but it better not take more than 20 minutes to assemble. Manufacturers need to start addressing this issue by releasing new products on a more consistent time frame.

Greg Bosak
Chicagoland Hobby
Always nice to hear from a dealer, Greg, and you’re right. Andy Inserra, who has written for the TAMR column and is on the sunny side of 25, is now one of the foremost Alco chasers in the country. So it’s true that what a modeler puts in is what the modeler gets out. Get a sheet of plywood, throw down some track, put on a couple of buildings, watch the train go round and round, get bored, what’s next? This just isn’t a very enduring model of the hobby. The World’s Greatest Hobby layout project is fantastic because you have to do some work, develop some skills, and make an investment of self to make it work. Then, every time you operate it, you get a return on yourself, and that feels pretty good. I’m sure you encourage this, but many won’t listen. *sigh* — Ed.
Mr. Kornhauser’s Lament, Continued

I agree with Howard Kornhauser’s concerns about the future of model railroading. Most model railroaders either model what they remember as a youth, or what they can see around them. Sure, the steam-to-diesel transition era is popular now with the baby boomers, but what about attracting newcomers to the hobby? Young folks entering the hobby will probably choose the era of the 60s to the present — where are the products for them?

Your comments about kitbashing an N-scale gas station were way off the mark, too — you can’t expect a newcomer to the hobby to start scratch building right away — that only comes with experience. More products in all scales that reflect the “modern” diesel era are needed. I personally model 1998 in HO scale, and have found it difficult to get structures and details for this period. How about an SD45 or C44 with sound?

The model manufacturers that concentrate on the steam-to-diesel era will find their cash cow disappears with the decline of the boomers — let’s hope they can transition to new products before their business fails. Meanwhile — what’s available to attract the youngsters?

Ernie Carlson
ZigZag, OR
Welcome to the party, Ernie. I looked up ZigZag in the Oregon Blue Book and couldn’t find it in the list of cities and towns (which is restricted to incorporated entities). Apparently, like nearby Prospect, Oregon, ZigZag is perfectly happy to remain unincorporated. Drop me an e-mail (editor@modelrailroadnews.com) and tell more about the place. Any train watching around there? Meanwhile, read the next letter and then factor in my response to it. — Ed.
More on Gas Stations

I just received my MRN, Vol. 12/Issue 6 and, as always, what a top shelf publication so… Thank you! I am 38 and have been in model railroading since I was a kid and into many scales over the years, but I am currently an N-scale modeler. While I do know a few things, I am always willing to learn from those that know and or have been there, and I just read Mr. Kornhauser’s letter and I wanted to comment on a couple of things if I may.

I hope his layout is pretty big because when I see photos of the B&M, B&A, and NYC and O. Winston Link’s photos, you do see stations right near the tracks. I believe in this day and age, modern stations built over the past 5-10 years cannot be built near RR tracks due to current safety regulations and proximity. I know this may sound picky but his letter suggests his wanting to be prototypical.

I also find the older stations more interesting. Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder but anything that has stood the test of time and still going is unique in the throw away society we have today. A box with windows just doesn’t do much, but you did cover that in the response by suggesting regional influences on the building itself which is true.

Finally, yes, there are not many “modern” vehicles but how many TV shows are on cable where people buy vintage and classic cars and fix them up so they can drive them. I have some older automobiles on my modern layout and they don’t look out of place at all. I love to see a restored 55 Chevy, or a 68 GTO, or an old Model A when I am driving in my car.

I hope Mr. Kornhauser becomes active with some other model railroaders and clubs where he is able to see some different layouts and have some interaction and maybe he might find out how much is out there for whatever era you want to model.

John G. Ross
Warren, MA
See my own attached post card from a place out of time. On this trip, I also looked at a hundred gas stations of today. First, you will have to deal with companies with high-dollar logos and fast-moving legal teams. The same problem is well documented with modern automobiles. UP likes to claim that their program will have no effect on the industry, but I offer as evidence the fact that new gas stations and new cars are not modeled as proof to the contrary. Could you sell an N-scale gas station for $100 or an SUV for $50 just because licensing issues drove up the price? Would you accept a “de-proto-ized” gas station with a fictitious name or a fictional body style and brand name vehicle? — Ed.


Wish you were here, and model this! Up in Longmire, Washington in beautiful Mt. Rainier National Park, is this absolutely adorable thirties-era gas station, lovingly restored as an exhibit of the early days of auto travel into the Park.
History of UP’s Problems

Dear John:

I just finished the book, The Great Iron Trail, The Story of the first Transcontinental Railroad, by Robert West Howard, published in 1962. It really gives a fascinating view of the entire construction of the Transcontinental Railroad. I’ve never had the privilege of reading, in book form, what actually occurred during the years from the early 1830s when the first railroad from New York to Oregon was proposed by the editor of The Emigrant newspaper in Ann Arbor, Michigan and the driving of the final spike at Promontory on May 10, 1869.

One thing I learned was the fact that the present difficulty of the U. P. and their attitude could actually be traced back to Mr. Thomas C. Durant and his attitude toward just about everyone. I also found that much of his problem can be traced to the attitude of the government at that time, but it seems that he really went out of his way to “stick it” to the little guy. There were months when the labor gangs went without pay because he was lining his own pockets. Also, if the information is correct, then even though the last spike ceremony could have happened sooner, he delayed it because of his ego. History is so fascinating.

Don Courliss
Jonesborough, TN
And like a bowl of good chili, it repeats! — John
Cedco Woes

Dear John,


Your editorial was well written, precise, and to the point and I agree with you entirely. Unfortunately, it’s too late to save Cedco from caving in to the great yellow monster. They published the best Santa Fe calendars on the market. Now they publish nothing.

I used to model Santa Fe, UP, and SP. I have removed all but the Santa Fe from my club layout and vowed to never again donate any of my hard earned dollars to the “Money Monger” by buying anything with the UP logo on it. Keep up the good work. Thank you.

Dick Elmore
Texas Chief
Dear John, this would have been an editorial from back a ways, and yes, I have bought Cedco Santa Fe calendars. Good calendars and sad outcome, really. Publishing is such a marginal business that even what seems to be a small licensing fee can cut a slim margin to the bone and kill the project. — John
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